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DCH Regional Medical Center Tuscaloosa, Alabama |
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Good data – cerebral oximetry is excellent perfusion tool. |
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Its a trending device so the numbers mean absolutely nothing. What it really does is make the team especially Anesthesia & Perfusion pay better attention to the patient during surgery. |
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I believe that cerebral oximetry is a valuable trending tool to monitor adequate perfusion to the patient. It alerts the perfusionist to the fact (in most cases) that there is a physiologic change happening that needs to be attended to. I feel more comfortable pumping a case with it on the patient. UMASS Memorial Health Care Worcester, MA. |
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Rush-Copley Medical Center, Aurora, IL |
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I was unsure of the answers to Questions 6 & 19 . |
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not sure about the price |
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Methodist Children’s Hospital |
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Cerebral Oximetry has been the only technological advance in perfusion over the last 7 years which has directly changed the way I practice perfusion. I would not consider doing a procedure without it. |
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San Francisco Bay Area Hospitals |
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We have found the Foresight signal to be much more precise than the “trending” values we saw on any model of the Somanetics system, giving us greater confidence in making decisions regarding our intervention protocols. As far as workflow improvement, being able to place sensors at anytime, and not having to get a baseline really makes a difference in getting the patient prepped. |
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Providence Hospital |
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St Joseph Hospital |
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I wouldn’t do a case without it. |
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– Some of the priority of some interventions depend on the current flow rate, sweep rate, FiO2, MAP, Hct, temp, at the time of 20% decrease. – Ironically, I have experienced a decrease in SrO2 readings with decreasing temp. – Cerebral oximetry would be used on 100% of cardiac cases if Perfusion was responsible for set-up, application, and calibration of pads & monitor compared to Anesthesia. – Perfusion charts data, but anesthesia does not – Internal recording of data onto disk or SD card is not utilized, so data is not graphed after the case. |
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We do not your cerebral oximetry. |
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Question 17 will vary depending on what is happening. i.e. unless we lose a reading there is no reason to check the sensors. We also chart everything while making the changes. Kent General |
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Phoenix, AZ |
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The list for priority of intervention is contingent on the complete clinical picture. The co linearity of the variables, compounded by the complexity of clinical setting makes the survey question useless as it is posed. |
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I wish we did use cerebral oximetry at this hospital. I have had the rep from Somanetics here to do a presentation, but the anesthesiologist still think it’s the same as a BIS & influence the surgeon that it’s unnecessary. Question 17 requires me to enter data so it what I would do if we were operating it. |
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Question 17 should be re-written. |
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Memorial Hospital Chattanooga, TN |
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St Alphonsus RMC |
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Question 17 does not have absolute answers or order of interventions. The interventions used and their order are dependent on the type of surgery, point of time during the procedure and the rate of saturation drop. There are to many variables to have a set checklist for every situation. Experience is the biggest factor in utilizing this technology. |
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Kaweah delta CA Julian Williams CCP |
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I am interested in all information to support the use and experience with cerebral oximetry. We currently don’t use co but would like to. |
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Bryan, your survey does not allow for accurate answers. Since we did eval both of the listed devices but anesthesia chose to not use either, we do not use cerebral oxy on our adult cases. But your survey does not allow for this line of answers. |
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I have been attempting to have anesthesia use our cerebral oximetry device for hart surgery cases, but have, as yet, been unsuccessful. |
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Will you reveal results??? Thanks PA |
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This device has shown that better outcomes can be achieved by having patient specific information on cerebral blood flow. Treatment is patient specific as there is not one formula for all. Harbor UCLA Medical Center |
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contract- hospitals confidential |
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Question 19 – We use Cerebral Oximetry, however, I do not know what the price of the sensors are, so I entered 10. Charting of the Cerebral Oximeter numbers is personnel dependent. I prefer to chart them with my other chart data, my fellow perfusionists do not. |
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Good to know if anyone is expanding the use of this technology. I see a lot off value in the monitoring-Russell Brown, St Vincent & St. Lukes Hospital’s, Toledo OH |
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Hays Medical Center |
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Re: question 19. I do not know what the hospital pays for the sensors. |
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We have a Somanetics machine. It is administered by Anesthesia. It is not used routinely at all. Probably less than 1-2% of the time. There is no protocol for it’s use. It is here from a former study. I answered question #17 in light of what we (perfusion) would do if and when it were to be used. There is , however I am increasing interest for it’s use. I would like a copy of the results of this survey. Sincerely, Russell Butler, CCP |
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St. Francis Heart Hospital, Indianapolis, IN |
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I don’t know how much the sensors cost since anesthesia provides that service. |
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Eastern NC |
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not responsible for purchase, placement, charting |
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Mission Hospital Regional Medical Center Mission Viejo, CA |
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Q17 Has no N/A for non-users … so I entered as if we used the device. |
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MMMC |
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Sutter |
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not good science why are we waiting time and energy on this device |
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Nicole M. Michaud St. Vincent Hospital |
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St. Vincent HHC. The one thing that has changed with using the COM is that giving blood is a option that is used earlier. Is this a good thing or bad? My concern is that this is a monitoring modality that can make money; not that it has changed our outcomes to a great degree. |
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INVOS has verified that what we do is appropriate, i.e., we always use 1.5% forane on all patients. After hundreds of patients (1500/yr) experience w INVOS, we found that there was little adjustments or added info from it so we only use it ~15%. |
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CFVHS |
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How and when the value changed determines the order of response. |
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Multiple |
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Number 17 is a bad question |
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Lutheran Hospital |
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Please throw out answers to #17…we don’t use it, so the right answer is n/a which the survey won’t accept.
Tripler Army Medical Center |
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St. Joes Bellingham, WA. Two anesthesiologists use only one sensor on the right side. |
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should be state of art for ped and adult cardiac surgery |
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mainly used on carotid surgery |
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The modality is to increase temperature as one of the parameters not decrease it as to decreasing temperature will decrease your cerebral sats in some patients due to shunting of the brain. |
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The intervention sequence has a lot of variables involved that may or may not be simultaneous. I think you have too many acceptable ideas and sequence of reporting that drop depending on which institution you are working at. |
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Question # 17 has factors that affect the answers, i.e., age, type of procedure, venous cannulae utilized. My response to #17 could change depending on those issues at hand.
Great survey. Keep up the good work. |
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I see my perfusion techniques change with the use of the cerebral oximetry. We document everything especially if we need to add blood products. This has been very instrumental with our Blood Utilization Review Board.
Not sure what you were asking on #6.
Nice Survey, Brian. I would be very interested in the results as well. Susan Englert. |
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Missouri Baptist Medical Center, St. Louis, MO |
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“Guestimate” on cost. |
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Too expensive for adult patients |
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There truly is no way to know whether the “impending situation” would have had any effect on clinical outcome had it not been identified. we were unable to demonstrate any clinically significant change in outcomes at our institution during a trial period with adult patients. we use it in pediatric procedures at the request of the surgeon. |
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Not sure how reliable the data really is. You can manipulate the data any way you wish – run CO2 levels higher, flows higher, HCT higher and normothermic temp. If ABG’s, SVO2, flows, MAP, venous drainage and urine output are adequate, the “random number generator”, i.e. the Somanetics opens the door to liability for the perfusionist. A number of times, the Somanetics will display 25-40% below baseline without any ill effects post-op. And yet it will display higher than baseline an entire case, and the patient never wakes up – explain that. |
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N/A |
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omit number 17, there is no order. I don’t know the answer to 19. |
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it’s a good addition of information to the team |
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St Mary’s Hospital |
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Will be starting a trial soon. I believe Cerebral Oximetry should be the standard of care for cardiac surgery. |
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Currently we conducting a study to compare our outcomes with both the CASMED and Somanetics devices.
Ken Jeleniowski, CCP Chief Perfusionist Hartford Hospital |
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I’ve used both the Somanetics and the Casmed devices. The foresight is a superior device. It doesn’t require a base line so for those emergencies from the Cath Lab that are already intubated it’s really nice. Also the Casmed’s numbers appear to correlate to interventions more appropriately. We have switched completely to the Casmed. |